he just wouldn't give us a straight answer. but he did tell us he considers himself a hero for the important role he played in ousting saddam. he even ran for a seat in the iraqi parliament last march. he got creamed. perhaps the voters didn't see him as the hero he claimed to be. we showed excerpts of our interview to former c.i.a. senior official tyler drumheller, now a consultant for "60 minutes." curve ball insists he did all this to get saddam out of iraq. you believe him? >> drumheller: no. i think he probably believes that himself now. i strongly feel that he did it at the time to... to be able to stay in germany. >> simon: if that's the case, he succeeded. today, curve ball and his family have german passports and live in the southern part of the country. so now, he apparently feels safe enough to tell his story. at least part of it. as our interview entered its second hour, we pressed him for the whole story, the full truth. >> alwan: tell the truth is not for me. >> simon: telling the truth is not for you? >> alwan: y